Almost there…
Aug 25th
Just wanted to provide a quick update for everyone and let you know that Astdroid is moving along quite well.
Last week I was able to complete a significant amount of work on the app. It is now able to track, take timed photos (from both front and rear facing cameras), and post location updates to a website for live tracking. The website side of thing still needs a little work, but it should be operational shortly.
As far as the craft itself, all the pieces are in place. I recieved the recovery parachute I ordered from Rocketman and now have the last of the parts I’ve ordered. Need to do some work on securing things, establishing windows, and insulating but that shouldn’t take too long. Truthfully, I’ve seen successful projects succeed with much less so I feel good about the design and consideration we’ve used.
I’m getting more and more confident in the app doing its job and the phone being the only necessary electronic component in having a successful and recoverable flight. That being said, rather than risk a $600 phone I decided to buy a second-hand Spot GPS Tracker off my buddy for $150 as a form of insurance. With it riding alongside Astdroid, should the app fail we will not only be able to recover the phone via Spot, but also learn what may have gone wrong and fix any software mistakes.
The list of what remains to be done before launch is pretty slim at this point. I’m looking forward to announcing a launch date soon! Stay tuned!
The (Test) Launch of Astdroid I
Aug 10th
Yesterday was a big day, folks! After spending about a dozen hours writing some code I felt comfortable enough with my Android application to do a test launch of Astdroid. So, along with my lovely assistant (my wife twitter.com/ErinPier) and my dogs, I packed up the 167 lbs. tank of helium and headed to a local park to do some testing.
This was the first time I’d filled one of the weather balloons I’d received a couple weeks ago and wow, do those things hold alot of helium. It took about 10 minutes to fill the balloon up enough to produce lift with the phone and payload (a piece of styrofoam with a hole cut out that the phone fits into) attached. The balloon and payload were subsequently attached to a 500 ft. spool of mason line (string) so that I could test out the application and the balloon lift while still keeping things in reachable and recoverable distance. With the balloon filled and the Android App running, Astdroid was ready to take its first flight.
Things were progressing smoothly and I was just about ready to let the line out when I heard “Danny!” followed by a BAM! I looked over just in time to see the styrofoam sled carrying my phone bounce off the pavement and then looked upward to see the balloon float away. Remember how I asked for a resource of where to learn better knots to tie in my last post? Well, my deficiency in knot expertise got me again. The payload had become detached from the balloon and fell to the ground while the balloon set off on its independent tour of the stratosphere.
Luckily, the styrofoam did it’s job and protected the phone 100%. And even luckier, I planned for failure had another balloon along with me. At that point, I decided that I couldn’t let my knot tying ignorance persist any longer and spent an hour and half tying knots with the help of this page later that night.
With the second balloon filled I was ready to give things another go. The balloon began to drift up and got about 100 feet overhead before the weight of the string leveled things out. Since it looked like we’d need more helium to get any higher, I began to reel in the line in hopes to give it another go with some more juice. With the balloon safely back on the ground, I considered the first (test) flight of the Astdroid project complete!
With another minute or two of helium added to the balloon it was time to see just how far this thing could go while remaining safely retrievable. It took off at an amazingly fast rate and was quickly 300 feet over head. As the wind began to push it away rather than letting it drift upward I decided it was again time to reel things in. After a couple minutes, the balloon was safely back on the ground, the I clicked “Stop” on the Astdroid application, and we headed home to look at the results.
The launches are only one part of this project. The data and photos/video are the other… and that’s where things get cool. The two launches produced two KML files (Google Earth formatted GPS tracks). I’m still a little bit amazed at exactly how cool they look!
If you’re interested in taking a look at the data in Google Earth yourself, here are launches I and II.
Along with the really cool data, I captured video of the two flights. Be warned, they’re enough to make you a bit dizzy.
As you may have seen, I tweeted out a URL for others to track the flight of Astdroid. It’s the only part of the project that didn’t go off without a hitch. While live tracking IS working, it seems that I set the timeout for a data connection to be too short, meaning that since it couldn’t post an update within the 30 second window I asked for it simply didn’t happen. Simple bug, should be an easy fix… and once it is, I’ll continue to invite everyone to follow along online!
Where does the project stand?
Very confident! Even with the loss of a balloon due to faulty knots, we accomplished alot! The Astdroid App recorded data, took video, and the craft successfully flew and return to earth! Not a bad day!
What are the next immediate steps to be accomplished?
- Features need to be added and bug fixes need to be made to the App
- A better payload craft needs to be designed with plexiglass portholes, insulation, and STRONGER KNOTS!
- Need to affix a recovery parachute and radar beacon
- Need to purchase an external power pack to support unexpectedly long flight
Question: Craft design?
Does anyone have any particular ideas for how the payload should be designed. From most of the similar project I’ve seen, it’s traditionally a styrofoam cooler, but I’m up for other suggestions. What about padding? Rope? Anything to keep it warm since the air is going to get down to -70 degrees Fahrenheit? Something better than acrylic for “windows”? As always, let me know your thought either via the comments or discussion group.
It’s been a great week! This is getting exciting!
Hello, Astdroid.
Jul 27th
The fierce attention over the Astdroid project as a consequence of the post on Mashable has died down quite a bit in the last week, as is to be expected. Good thing, really, I don’t know how long I’d have been able to keep up. Still getting emails everyday from people offering their help and support, which I will never have any complaints about, no matter the quantity.
While the press about Astdroid is great and all… we haven’t done anything yet! I can only hope that we see this kind of attention after we’ve successfully completed our goal! With that in mind, let’s get down to business.
I think that with every update to the Astdroid project, 3 topics should be addressed
- Where does the project stand?
- What are the next immediate steps we hope to accomplish?
- A question, something that I could use some help from the community on answering.
I’m not a aeronautical engineer, nor a meteorologist, nor much of a designer, and truthfully not much more than a software engineer with huge desire and drive to make this project a success, so please feel free to hop in any time, either via the comments, email, or the Google discussion group I’ve just set up.
Where does the project stand?
Moving right along, actually. I have recently received 4 weather balloons that I’ve ordered from Kaymont, a website I’d been referred to via the blog of a similar project. I ordered two 200 gram balloons and two 500 gram balloons. The 500 gram balloons will be the ones we’re likely to use for flight, ultimately. The 200 gram balloons will be used for testing.
You’d be surprised at just how much helium is needed to achieve lift of something that weighs only a couple ounces. Being impatient in waiting for the true weather balloons to arrive I spent a Sunday afternoon trying to see how many of those punching balloons (remember those as a kid? bigger balloons with rubber bands attached) it would taked to raise a Flip Mino HD off the ground while taking video.
Well… it was a failure. It seemed that the balloons popped at the exact frequency with which it was necessary to prevent them from crossing threshold of getting off the ground. I expect to see much better results from actual balloons designed for this kind of thing.
From an app perspective I’ve been busy there as well. Essentially, I’m working on creating a dashboard of sorts with all the information that will be useful to monitor from Astdroid as it takes flight. Any fellow developers, think of it as “Hello World” for the instruments of the phone.
It’s been fairly easy and straightforward so far, programming wise. Haven’t hit any major stumbling blocks, which is always a nice surprise.
What are the next immediate steps to be accomplished?
The first thing I’d like to do now that the balloons have arrived are test a 200 gram balloon tethered to the ground carrying a Flip Mino HD as a payload. It will be a cool way to test payload designs, establish how much helium will be needed to bring something the size of the EVO (roughly) off the ground, as well as capturing some neat video in the process. I’ve got about 1,300 feet of mason line, so it should still get pretty up there without flying into too much danger.
Question: Knots?
In rigging up my failed contraption of punching balloons I had several fly away from tying crappy knots. Not a big deal, costing about 40 cents apiece, but that’s a different story when talking about the weather balloons as they cost between $25 and $35 each. Not to mention the disasters that could take place if the wrong parts detach at upper altitudes.
Does anyone have any suggestions for what knots to use, where I can learn to tie them, and what would work best for tying to a balloon and then subsequently attaching a payload to that?
Sounds like a mundane question, but it’s these little things that can doom a project. Just ask NASA and the Mars Climate Orbiter which crashed into Mars because of a conversion between imperial and metric.
If you’ve got any ideas leave a comment or respond at the discussion group post!
The Funding of Astdroid, A Brief History
Jul 14th
Horray! We did it! Here you are at Astdroid.com, a place I hope many will visit in keeping up with the Astdroid project. There’s lots to be done, and with your help and input I hope to make this project both successful and something we can all be proud of.
Let’s recall how we got here.
After pitching my initial idea to kickstarter, the project kicked off on June 9th . In the first few days it garnered a good bit of attention from places like cnet, androidguys.com, and phandroid and earned the first few backers.
After the initial ferver, Astdroid funding fell on some hard times
As with most things on the internet, the attention was fleeting and things slowed to a halt through the middle of the funding period. Being honest, I had my doubts about its success when with only 5 or so days remaining a mention on This Week in Google from Gina Trapani blew down the doors with support and backers.
(The Astdroid mention comes at about 1 hour, 2 minutes, 45 seconds in)
The mention on This Week in Google was not only a huge moment for Astdroid, but a personal moment of pride for me. I’ve followed and respected Leo Laporte for well over 10 years and have been listening to him and Gina on TWiG since the start. Hearing a blurb on their show got me giddy. My favorite part however, might be the talk of my friends bugging Gina to get us mentioned… little did she know it was the backers of Astdroid themselves, none of whom I’d know before, who were going above and beyond to get the project attention!
After TWiG things took off!
After TWiG there was no stopping the project. On July 8th with 3 days remaining we crossed the goal of the $1,800 and the project became a success. In the final hours those that still wanted to be a part of the venture continued to show there support. On July 11th the project deadline was crossed with over $250 beyond what was asked with 66 total backers.
Yesterday, after the project’s close, the excitment continued with a post on mashable.
Work on the project itself has begun! On the day of the project’s close I picked up 167 lbs. of helium. Can’t wait to begin experimenting!
In the coming weeks I’ll be asking for suggestions, ideas, help, and feedback and continue to do my best to make this the group venture I hope it to be. Please feel comfortable to share your thoughts!








